From the Mind of Splittfinger » Ahmadinejad, Putin, Chavez, Kim Jong-il

Ahmadinejad, Putin, Chavez, Kim Jong-il

Ahmadinejad promises to wipe out Jews, and has anyone who speaks out about him killed.

Putin seizes more oil fields, and has anyone who speaks out about him poisoned.

Chavez steals and election, put himself in for live, and kills anyone who speaks out about him.

Kim Jong-Il is getting nukes ready to be used to kill millions of people, and kill anyone who speaks out about him.

Al-Sadr, Osama and others spend all day trying to come up with ways to kill Americans. In the mean time they just practice killing any innocent person they can find.

African war lords control all assets that hit that continent, killing all people they don't like, starving others, while AIDS spreads like wild fire.

In the Middle East they brutally rape and kill women who show their face, teach children, or pretty much for any reason they want.

People in all these areas are starving to death, being tortured (the real kind, not the kind our troops supposedly do) and other wise killed.

and Kofi and UN waste a whole speech out President Bush and the American evils.

Pull your heads out of the dark place between your legs folks.  Does the left wing media have you so under their control that you question Pres. Bush and American values? Does the left wing media have you so worked up about Pres. Bush that you get mad at him?  Call him the worst president ever?

ARE YOU SO BLIND THAT YOU CAN'T SEE WHAT IS GOING ON AROUND YOU?  

There is a strong movement in the world today. A movement that is exemplified by the men at the top of this article. By religions that claim to teach peace.  The movement is to remove Freedom, to remove Liberty. This movement has taken hold in America. The people who have fallen prey to this evil can be identified by their inability to identify the true problems in the world. They will tell you that Bush policy and global warming are the real issues, yet they seem to be able to admit the other evils I mentioned at the begining of this article.  They hate Bush policy, but do you know what Bush the policy they hate is?  Freedom. Liberty.

IT IS OUR GOD GIVEN DUTY TO SPREAD FREEDOM.  Sometimes that requires force, persistence, even death to achieve.  As citizens of the free world, this is our obligation.  There is a myth that I’ve heard the liberals say. It is that some people are not ready for freedom, or a certain people don't want freedom, it's not our place to force them to freedom.  This is the cry of a coward. ALL PEOPLE HAVE THE DESIRE TO BE FREE.  Sometimes this desire just needs to be found. Some people need to be given the courage to stand up for their freedoms. It takes time, but it is necessary for the progression of civilization.

This is what Bush policy is.  I happened to agree with it 100%. We must not get caught up in the liberal thought process of social welfare.  You cannot force a people to work for the good of another, it must come freely. Freedoms must exist to allow a person to act for himself.  Laws can only exist to protect those who may be harmed by others bad choices.  Laws cannot exist to force you to act a certain way, only to protect.  Otherwise you infringe on freedoms. The founding fathers understood this and we are changing them to infringe on freedom.

Example:  Freedom "of" religion gives people to the right to worship freely, who or what they will.  Laws were put in place to protect people from harming themselves or others in the name of religion.

This evil in our country has changed it to freedom "from" religion, but telling people how they can or cannot act, what they can or cannot display what they can or cannot refer to people as, all in the false name of tolerance.  (Please lookup tolerance in the dictionary for true meaning) We are removing freedoms with these laws.

People, please wake-up

Posted Dec 13 2006, 10:17 AM by Splittfinger

Comments

Splittfinger wrote re: Ahmadinejad, Putin, Chavez, Kim Jong-il
on 12-14-2006 11:05 AM
A living and current example of this evil:

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/006539.htm
Hayduke wrote re: Ahmadinejad, Putin, Chavez, Kim Jong-il
on 12-14-2006 3:52 PM
I'm feeling bad for you today. So much effort, so little interest.

Concerning your link: Anybody that can put a stop to any christmas caroling at all, is okay by me.
Rcougar wrote re: Ahmadinejad, Putin, Chavez, Kim Jong-il
on 12-15-2006 9:22 AM
why does it not suprise me that you don't like christmas caroling? As for the prisoner guess what it shouldn't be good or comfortable for inmates, rub all the salt in you want maybe it will inspire them to change.
Splittfinger wrote re: Ahmadinejad, Putin, Chavez, Kim Jong-il
on 12-15-2006 9:27 AM
YEA!!! Hayduke showed face again! Recovered from the bruises from last time? ;-)
Goosedyou wrote re: Ahmadinejad, Putin, Chavez, Kim Jong-il
on 12-15-2006 1:45 PM
Back to the issue at hand.

Splitt, you say "It is our God given duty to spread freedom."  I'd like to know where this came from, or how you believe that we were charged by God to spread freedom by "...force, persistance, or even death...."  That seems like the kind of call that the Muslim extremists carry with their "spreading of the faith by the sword if necessary," and so forth.  If you can force someone to freedom then can't we force someone to work to support another (referencing the welfare state)?

I would agree that people desire freedom.  But to force the desire upon people if they don't have it themselves is wrong.  If a society isn't strong enough to stand up for freedom on its own then how will they be strong enough to support it when they have it?  Thus, the current state of the Iraq War.  The people are divided because they weren't strong enough on their own accord BEFORE THE WAR!  

Ever since the Vietnam Era, America has taken it upon themselves to be Big Brother to the world, or at least to underdeveloped countries.  Just as Manifest Destiny drove us West during the 1800's our government's high-mindedness has dragged this country from Korea to Vietnam and now to Iraq.  The last war that this country fought with any dignity was WWII.  Korea: Unprovoked.  Lindon Johnson lied but at least we got out in three years.  Vietnam: Ah, the call to stop the spread of Communism!  A police action (notice, another undelcaired war) that eventually cost how many thousands of lives?!  And for what, for America to pull out because we got our asses handed to us by the Viet Cong!  Iraq: Another undeclaired war.  Again, we were lied to (nothing new. Presidents have been lying since Andrew Jackson's time.  It's part of Politics) and now we're in Iraq and our purpose there has become trying to prevent civil war when we leave.

Has anybody noticed that Bush is using the same crappy tactics that were tried in Vietnam?  Yep, training the local-yokals to take over military and security operations so that they'll be "self sufficient" and we can go home.  Hmmm... Nixon tried the exact same thing and guess what happened?  That's right!  The entire Vietnamese special opps unit that we were training got completely annihilated in one battle, then we got our asses handed to us and we had to tuck tail and run.  I would expect better from George.  But then again, he didn't fight in Vietnam.  That makes me expect even more out of him since he was sitting at home watching and learning how NOT to handle a war.  Wow, we can't learn from History!  The lone Super Power, for now, and we can't pull our heads out long enough to see that if we repeat the mistakes fo the past we might get the same result!

Yes, there are some "bad guys" in the world and we keep adding to the problem.  America should go back to Issolationism.  People come to America with their hand out and we always give, give, give.  Then we are seen as the bad guy.  Screw the world.  Let them fight and bicker and argue and fix their own damn problems.  We have enough of our own to worry about.  
chefinfidel wrote re: Ahmadinejad, Putin, Chavez, Kim Jong-il
on 12-15-2006 3:27 PM
Goosedyou, you've got to stop getting your history from where ever it is you get it.

We did not lose one major conflict during the Viet Nam war.  We did not get our asses handed to us.  The only thing we lost in the Viet Nam war was support for the war at home.  

Facts about the end of the war:

The fall of Saigon happened 30 April 1975, two years AFTER the American military left Vietnam. The last American troops departed in their entirety 29 March 1973. How could we lose a war we had already stopped fighting? We fought to an agreed stalemate. The peace settlement was signed in Paris on 27 January 1973. It called for release of all U.S. prisoners, withdrawal of U.S. forces, limitation of both sides' forces inside South Vietnam and a commitment to peaceful reunification. [1996 Information Please Almanac]

The 140,000 evacuees in April 1975 during the fall of Saigon consisted almost entirely of civilians and Vietnamese military, NOT American military running for their lives. [1996 Information Please Almanac]

There were almost twice as many casualties in Southeast Asia (primarily Cambodia) the first two years after the fall of Saigon in 1975 then there were during the ten years the U.S. was involved in Vietnam. [1996 Information Please Almanac]

Goosedyou wrote re: Ahmadinejad, Putin, Chavez, Kim Jong-il
on 12-15-2006 4:15 PM
Fought to an agreed stalemate, hugh?  That's like saying, "no she didn't dumbe me.  It was a mutual agreement."  It's the losers way of saving face.  We didn't lose one major conflict during the Vietnam war?  Wow, the blinders are on there.

As for more casualties after the fall of Saigon, you're obviously referencing what the governments of Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia did to their own people.  I should have been more clear that I meant American Lives.  

Regardless, we're fighting for a country that is going to fall into civil war as soon as we pull out because we went running in there not paying attention to Shia and Sunni differences and believing that they were "adult enough to work it out politically."  

We can't even work out our own problems!  Why would Iraqis being new to a Democratic form of government, and with deeply divided religious and cultrual issues, be able to work out there problems?
chefinfidel wrote re: Ahmadinejad, Putin, Chavez, Kim Jong-il
on 12-16-2006 3:41 PM
Who's "hugh"?
Splittfinger wrote re: Ahmadinejad, Putin, Chavez, Kim Jong-il
on 12-17-2006 7:02 PM
Goose..
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare,

AND SECURE THE BLESSING OF LIBERTY TO OURSELVES AND OUR POSTERITY,

do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Blessings:
1. to consecrate or sanctify by a religious rite; make or pronounce holy.  
2. to request of God the bestowal of divine favor on: Bless this house.  
3. to bestow good of any kind upon: a nation blessed with peace.  
4. to extol as holy; glorify: Bless the name of the Lord.  

Liberty:
1. freedom from arbitrary or despotic government or control.  
2. freedom from external or foreign rule; independence.  
3. freedom from control, interference, obligation, restriction, hampering conditions, etc.; power or right of doing, thinking, speaking, etc., according to choice.  
4. freedom from captivity, confinement, or physical restraint: The prisoner soon regained his liberty.

Summary:
God given freedoms to secure
Desechado wrote re: Ahmadinejad, Putin, Chavez, Kim Jong-il
on 12-27-2006 3:57 PM
I have to agree with Splitt and the Chef on this one. Goose does have a point though. We didn't loose any major battles in Vietnam, but the enemy was such a phantom that many wins were meaningless. The worst defeat was within the minds of the soldiers themselves with fighting a war that many didn't believe in and were unwilling to support. During this war, more soldiers and marines died of wounds that would not have killed them if they were fighting with the same support as the soldiers and marines of WWI and WWII. This is amazing because medical technology was much more advanced during Vietnam.

Freedom is not just a God given right to those in the US. We are all God's children. Goose, you don't understand that one does not have for force another to accept freedom. A wise man once said that the Word was more powerfull than the sword when it comes to helping others recognize the value of true freedom.
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