Breaking: Riot Breaks Out Among Prisoners at Indiana Prison

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Splittfinger wrote re: Breaking: Riot Breaks Out Among Prisoners at Indiana Prison
on 04-24-2007 4:22 PM
Media Comment on Foxnews.com says:

    Overcrowding to Blame?
    Mother of Indiana prisoner speaks out on riot at prison facility

no, Mr. Liberal, Overcrowding isn't to blame, the Prisoners are to blame.  But i'm sure they are the victims in the whole thing.

In fact, i bet  Rove or Bush had something to do with it.

I can't stand the logic anymore!!
Rcougar wrote re: Breaking: Riot Breaks Out Among Prisoners at Indiana Prison
on 04-24-2007 4:56 PM
Not just Bush and Rove but the entire republican party is to blame. You know the only reason they are in prison is because of the republican party and President Bush.
This is one of the things that bothers me, it is never the fault of the person who is breaking the law, making mistakes intentional or not.  Why can't those responsible take the blame? Why as a society can't we place the blame where it belongs? the blame is not the President's or the republican or Democrat party or even the parents and family members. As a parent you can only do your best to teach your children the correct principles and then hope that they choose to follow those principles, when they don't you don't blame society or anyone other than themselves they made the choice no one made them do anything, they may have played a part in the temptation but they did not make the choice for them. This is all on the prisoners not the prison system. overcrowding or anything other than the prisoners choice to roit.
Rcougar wrote re: Breaking: Riot Breaks Out Among Prisoners at Indiana Prison
on 04-24-2007 5:09 PM
Why is it that all the blame for everything that goes wrong falls to the President yet he gets no credit for the good that happens? If the prisons are overcrowded it isn't because the economy is bad and these are people without jobs or anything. The reports I have heard is that crime is droping all over the U.S., the unemployment rate is at a very low rate almost at what economist call full employment. The only thing that is out of control these days are the Democrates and Gas Prices. I don't see how Prices can be so high with the Oil prices being so much lower than they were a year ago.
Desechado wrote re: Breaking: Riot Breaks Out Among Prisoners at Indiana Prison
on 04-25-2007 3:03 AM
Maybe they heard about Sheryl Crow's toilet paper proposal???
On a more serious note, I wonder how immigration factors into this?
Isn't it funny (peculiar) that the issues that the conservatives embrace are issues that would reduce crime and jail/prison population? Look at the last post about religion in the home. Look at personal accountability. Embracing the 2nd ammendment to give the non-criminal population a way to defend themselves and deter crime. Border control. Naturalization issues. Welfare issues. Drug issues. Puting the "father" back in the home and involved in his children's lives.
What has the left done??? I understand the need for jail/prison expansion. However, the only options the left seems to be coming up with are bigger prisons and some social programs that blame the criminals' upbringing and environment on their behavior.
Melchor wrote re: Breaking: Riot Breaks Out Among Prisoners at Indiana Prison
on 04-25-2007 5:44 PM
These "social" programs are helping many people change their lives for the better. Why knock it if it works for many people. We also believe in getting the community involved. You guys make fun of "It Takes A Village", but anybody who is a mormon believes this too with all our ward activities for children, youth and adults.
Rcougar wrote re: Breaking: Riot Breaks Out Among Prisoners at Indiana Prison
on 04-26-2007 8:57 AM
The social programs are all run wrong, and any mormon should know that. The social programs are set up as something for nothing. this robs the person of the opportunity to earn what they have. Anytime a person needs help they are helped within the mormon faith but they have to do something for it. I have spent time in the inner city of St. Louis and so from what I saw the social programs rob people of their self-esteem and self worth. Once a person enters into the social programs they become dependant on the programs and are unable to get out. So the social programs may help a few people but the vast majority become slaves to the programs.
Splittfinger wrote re: Breaking: Riot Breaks Out Among Prisoners at Indiana Prison
on 04-26-2007 2:02 PM
Why are "social" programs even run by the government?

Who gave them the athority and responsibility?  Please advise?
Splittfinger wrote re: Breaking: Riot Breaks Out Among Prisoners at Indiana Prison
on 04-26-2007 2:13 PM
"It takes a village" doesn't mean the government, yes it means the church and community.  Melchor, you just blew your own argument out of the water.
Desechado wrote re: Breaking: Riot Breaks Out Among Prisoners at Indiana Prison
on 04-26-2007 9:12 PM
The government is a terrible administrator and manager of social programs. Take a look at disability benefits. I have a neighbor on disability because of a life long disability. Physically he is able to  work parttime (about 10 hours per week) now, but can't because as soon as he starts working and making any money on his own, he looses these benefits within a few months; even if he can't make enough part time to pay bills and live. He is stuck, made a slave to the system that doesn't allow him to grow into a job and better life. Fortunatly, family, church and community have been there to help.  
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